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    Barbara Antonsen Memorial Park and The Silent History of Posse Grounds

    March 6, 20134 Comments
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    Sedona AZ (March 6, 2013) – The Barbara Antonsen Memorial Park, otherwise known as Barbara’s park, sits in limbo. Posse Grounds, perched on the crest of a vista that overlooks almost incomprehensible scenes of red rocks, Oak Creek Canyon and the Mogollon Rim tell many stories. Towering buttresses have silently recorded the history of the canyons and the rocks of this magnificent area known as Sedona. And we Sedonans are only the latest inhabitants to occupy this sacred area. Did the previous occupants sit on this very bluff and marvel as we do today? Did they congregate here and share their traditions, their songs, dances, love, and chants, or did they contemplate the sacred wonder in silence?

    Leap in time to a hot summer day in 1953 when cowboys gathered for a parade and a rodeo. Same view, different activity. Leap again to 1989 and the last Jazz on the Rocks there. Then came the Sedona Community Park and Recreation Grounds followed by Yavapai College that tried to grab the red dirt as theirs for additional classrooms. Same views, same place, new use. In the spring of 2012, same view, new use: The Barbara Antonsen Memorial Park breaks ground.

    It took some 12 years of arduous, devoted, persistent efforts on the part of a dedicated group to set the groundbreaking and construction into motion. The design was dictated by the concerns of many: not too big, not too small, angle of the sun not in the audience eyes, sound not too loud, activities not too late, sufficient parking, fire regulations, landscaping not too water intensive but pretty, orientation to minimize impact on surrounding residents, management by Parks and Recreation Department, consideration of the Heritage Fund Grant, and low profile impact on topography. There’s something to please everybody.

    And that’s where the park ran afoul. Based on a report commissioned by the city, we learn the construction called for a formed concrete dome with a long span opening as the stage entrance. The team who designed and built the dome consisted of an Arizona licensed architect for the design, an engineering firm from Idaho (unknowingly unlicensed in Arizona), a local construction company, an unlicensed sub contractor from Missouri for the concrete work and the city. Early in the process of creating the inflatable dome it was decided to move the plastic airform liner upon which the shotcrete was to be applied. The plans called for the liner to be inside the dome form with rebar reinforcement on the outside. Somewhere in the process the liner was moved to the outside of the dome, placing the rebar on the inside. It’s still not clear who ordered this change or approved it, and apparently it was not reviewed by appropriate parties. All went well until they started applying the concrete on the dome, using the shotcrete process. From day one a bulge appeared which indicated stress. Seems there might have been a lack of communication among the project principals. 20130305_DomeStress-copyIt also evident the structural design had a flaw: the height to diameter ratio was off: it was too low and too wide. A low profile was part of the visual impact objection to be resolved. The park was to have a low profile on the hill so a flatter, wider dome was designed. Additionally, the opening at the stage entrance was unusually wide and posed additional support issues.

    Now we know most of what went wrong. The more pressing questions are looming before the Sedona City Council meeting on Tuesday, March 13, 2013 at 5:00 pm. This is when the fate of Barbara Antonsen Memorial Park dome will be decided. The park will stay, the dome may not. Will the dome project be scraped, will it be rebuilt with the modifications or is there another option yet to be discovered? All options have consequences, no matter what. Will everybody be pleased with the outcome? Probably not. Does the Park start the design process all over? Posse Grounds will remain either way. It would, however, be a shame for 12 years of volunteer time, energy and community support to be cast aside.

    Can the Spirits from the past help solve this quandary? We wonder if their wisdom can gently guide us on the right path on behalf of Barbara Antonsen? One thing is for certain: this too shall pass and another silent chapter of history will be recorded in the red rocks of Sedona.

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    4 Comments

    1. Carol Rizzi on March 11, 2013 9:55 am

      This park should NOT be built. This is not a good area for a concert bandshell, it’s a residential area. You have ruined a beautiful green area by plowing it under. Where are all the cars going to park – in an area asphalted over? Traffic, noise and light in a residential area – What are you thinking? The city then having to take over maintenance too? Not to mention the funds already outlayed. How ridiculous that the city had to pay for a report on the malfunction of the project!!!! The funds allocated for this project should now be directed to other projects such as the remaining drainage issues within the city.

      Didn’t the city learn a lesson with the Cultural Park? An outdoor venue is only good for a very short time during the year. That was a failure and a lesson that should be learned.

    2. Marlene Rayner on March 11, 2013 5:47 pm

      I agree with all the reasons Carol gave above and would add more. I would add that 12 years of volunteer time or staff time counts for nothing – they were either volunteers or they were employees paid to work for the city. Nobody should count how long it took to get to a defective, poorly planned design in a bad place. Build nothing at all (and put money elsewhere) or an open gazebo (like at the Creative Arts Center) and be over with it.

      So much has gone wrong with this project that it is laughable if it weren’t real life. All the city oversight/contractors/architect screwed up along the way.

      Further all the reasons given for the design are false – after the fact explanations. Remember this fiasco started with a 700 person (350 inside and 350 outside) capacity and a design which came out of nowhere as movers and shakers in this town went crazy with grandiose ideas. Then (in a typical P&Z-like negotiation) the berms were added to eliminate the outside seating and reduce capacity (forget that sound explanation as the only reason). The 300 capacity is still way above what the neighbors approved originally (125).

      The facility is not planned to follow the park rules set with the neighbors (like why add electrical outlets there when there aren’t supposed to be night programs, lights or sound enhancement.

      How about the attractive nuisance aspect of the dome – roof edge so close to the ground that it will be the goal of high school students to spray paint it as a prank yearly? How about the fact that the place is not closed nor visible from the road -thus becoming the night hostel of choice for the homeless and any animal life which can waltz in?

      Besides after the collapse who the heck would want to enter the place on rebuilding?

      Lots of mistakes including city oversight and maybe even contract issues (still unrevealed to the public) which may mean the city loses money once again….

    3. Neighbor of Posse Grounds on March 11, 2013 6:12 pm

      .Ditto to both Carol and Marlene.

    4. Eldon Dodge on March 11, 2013 6:45 pm

      Possibly we could retro fit the Cultural Parks bandshell, move it to the B.A. park. Last I checked it’s still there, standing, even though it’s been unused for over 10 years. It’s design seems to of stood the test of time, at least more so than Bubba’s plastic dome.
      Who in their right mind would think that rebar inside the dome could possibly do it’s job. Was the plastic dome itself to become a liner between the shot crete and the rebar? Seems to me the rebar must be intergraded into the shotcrete, above the plastic dome. Possibly some one smarter, or….., did not, or could not figure out how to support a rebar dome over a inflatable plastic dome. Maybe they felt it was to much work to suspend a rebar dome over a plastic inflatable dome. Anyone who has spent more than a hour working with concrete can verify the need for rebar to be the skeletal sub straight for the internal support inside concrete.
      Someone feel asleep at the wheel on this one, who holds the architect, or for that matter, Tiffany’s responsible?? Why do we, the community become the bearer of this cost and incompetence??
      The Buck Stops WHERE?!

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