By John Roberts, Sedona Resident
(July 18, 2021)
This disagreement rages on while no one raises the real question. If the social media advocates opposing vaccination were to qualify their posts with the statement that they are in opposition to the needle protection because of the opinion of an expert but the facts are absent it would clear the air. They avoid citing facts resulting from any valid testing program which renders their post no more solid than a pile of barnyard dung.
That action eliminates all the talk about freedom of speech per the Constitution. That means your vote either goes in accordance with an expert’s opinion or Dr.Fauci’s and his facts.
Now then stupidity is no longer party to the issue and elevates it to a proper level.
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The development of vaccines in the past has required much careful work, usually years. This is because the outcome of injecting what is being called a vaccine (or perhaps better saying what is hoped to be a vaccine) cannot be predicted. It is assumed by most that the “vaccine” is safe to use. It may not be terribly effective but the intention is for it to be so. However, in the experience of this history of developing such products, it has been learned that even the most carefully developed one cannot be assumed to be safe and effective. In testing this in animals it has happened that the animal (perhaps a chimpanzee for example) develops antibodies but then when “challenged” with the virus (meaning giving the virus disease to the animal to see if the vaccine has brought about immunity), has now become more susceptible — the opposite of what was intended.
What I want to emphasize here is that the protocol of rigorous testing over many months, or even years, has been found necessary to have some confidence in the outcome. It is more complicated than most people realize. In the example above, testing in a chimpanzee may be very well, but there is no guarantee that it will be the same in a human being. The success of the animal test suggests that it will work but the test must be done on human volunteers. It can even vary between age and sexes, having different effects in men vs. women, vs. children. You can see, considering this, that there can be objections to the current process as this testing has been skipped this time around. Yes, I know that there are some that claim it has been tested but I am saying not to the extent that it is usually done.
It is important to understand this, to be able to listen to the objections being raised.
COVID Vaccine Trials In Animals Were Stopped Because They Kept Dying, Revealed In Texas Senate Hearing
It was revealed recently during the Texas Senate Committee hearing that COVID-19 vaccine trials in animals were stopped because they kept dying.
This past week the Texas Senate Committee on State Affairs took testimony from Texas physicians regarding mandatory vaccination and Vaccine Passports in Texas – the Senate Bill SB 1669: Stop Forced Vaccination and Vaccine Passports in Texas.
A shocking revelation was made during the course of the senate hearing that animal testing of COVID-19 vaccines were stopped because they kept dying.
https://rightedition.com/2021/05/17/covid-vaccine-trials-in-animals-were-stopped-because-they-kept-dying-revealed-in-texas-senate-hearing/
YOU are the test. No animal testing was complete because ALL THE ANIMALS DIED.
Thanks to Richard Pitcairn’s post readers have a better understanding of producing a vaccine.
His most important comment has to do with how rigorously the protocol was followed. That then speaks to confidence in using the vaccine for the intended purpose. Which in turn depends on review of the protocol itself and especially results or conclusions of the testing.
The main point in my post being; is reliance better made in using the test supervisor scientist/doctor reputation or resume or on the actual test itself if any was performed. Peer review , even with it’s limitations, will always be superior and more reliable in gaining confidence.
To blithely say the vaccine is a fraud can only be defined as a work in stupidity.
john roberts
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45,000 people have allegedly died from the Covid-19 vaccine within three days, according to a US whistle-blower, which has sparked a lawsuit against the federal government.
Thomas Renz, an attorney based in Ohio has started a lawsuit against the federal government for covering up the true number of deaths from the Covid-19 vaccines.
According to Renz, a whistle-blower – referred to as Jane Doe – who is an insider and has seen information on the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) allegedly passed on the numbers and relevant information to him.
At an event hosted by Awaken America, Renz said: “We have someone that has sworn under penalty of perjury that there have been at least 45,000 deaths.”
Allegedly, the whistleblower stated that there are around 11 VAERS systems reporting adverse reactions and deaths across the US, and one system alone has allegedly has reported the shocking 45,000 deaths from the Covid jabs.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/45-000-dead-from-covid-19-vaccines-within-3-days-sparks-lawsuit-against-federal-government
Fauci should be arrested for Crimes Against Humanity and hung.
is there anyone believing JB Sedona anymore other than JB and other rabid species ?
Foundless garbage is all we ever read from JB all from allegedly and whistle blower status ( of honesty – ??????????????? )
I sure dont take JB ( he or she ) as an authority on any subject.
john roberts
@John Roberts
The truth of the matter is that the majority of clear thinking Americans can see that there is no pandemic and herd immunity from the virus was met a. long time ago.
Americans Are Avoiding ‘Biden’s Shots’ as if they are ‘The Plague’ itself because most Americans no longer trust the media, congress, Biden or our medical and education systems- you want to regain Americans trust? Then they should quit lying to us!
How can JB Sedona’s ” no pandemic exist with herd immunity ” at the same time and place unless it is not sane?
john
The Covid – 19 virus is real (so named because it was identified Dec 2019)
The vaccines are real (and each tested with 60K or so participants)
There are 3 vaccines in this country (J and J had a few problems with reactions, but are back) and all work 95% or less (that is an A back in your school days)
I got my shots after variants started and I am glad did.
People keep talking about the election and vaccines in such a way that the more you say a lie or other information it becomes truth. Sorry what some peddle will never be truth (not even close).
The surge in new cases in all 50 states is primarily with those without the vaccine (percentages in the 90’s for those that like numbers)
The vaccine works so well that in the last few days even more Republicans that spoke loudly against the vaccine and even one FOX TV host have changed their tune. These born again in Science folks are now in favor of the vaccine.
“Get sick get well hang around an ink well” B. D.
Do what you gotta do.
I have no confidence in the authorities who Simultaneously leave K 12 students with sexual predator educators norms in USA K12 education. Doctors have failed to prevent Student Harms for Decades presenting unnecessary sickness & premature deaths. If the doctors were interested in protecting humanity from sickness and death it would be doing it all of the time. Systematic&widespread institutional child CSA abuse adverse health outcomes & risk factors are the same conditions under Covid death & the leading causes of death before & during Covid. Doctors usual and customary Practices are a causation to multi institutional based public health crises & adverse public health outcomes which doesn’t warrant trust in the unethical practicing doctors
who went to college for years with medical degrees . I cant trust them with a bandaid let alone a vaccine while appropriate prevention for K12 institutional child sexual abuse (all children all races exploitations nationwide & all along while ) ACES medical care exists while doctors deny child patients access to it.
We now are learning that the vaxxx DESTROYS immune system down to 1/6th of previous levels.
It is vitally important that vaxxxed people begin chaga tea daily immediately.
chaga is the best immunoregulator on planet. Proven in science studies for over 100 year. Yes, suppressed.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/the-effects-of-vitamin-d-and-covid-related-outcomes_3896844.html
New day, new information.