By John Roberts, Sedona Resident
(January 7, 2021)
Washington’s police force tonight has been moving the Trump crowd away from the Capitol building. Rioting about over.
Trump’s amazing reign has accomplished what no other president has done. He lost the 2nd term election, lost control of both the House and the Senate. He incited the Trumpite goons to invade the Capital which is a cold cocked case of sedition .Congrats are due this looney tunes excuse for a man.
Biden needs to get his AG to charge him with sedition, a felony equal to treason, to a conviction and get him put away for life without any chance of a pardon. That way he will be able to fume about being a genuine loser for life.
Is there a single person in disagreement ???
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Well, sir you need better information. Trump did nothing wrong if you listen to the speech he gave before the start of the march. Trump has done more for this country than other presidents in a long time. He stood up for America against unfair trade, border security and many other things. However congress failed to get behind him and help him do a better job. He might be different from other presidents but he is still a person with faults. If you can’t help a person who has faults how can he be better? People need to be more objective about people. To down trode someone is easy with blinders on. Trump has the right ideas he just did not have the help to bring them to the people, so they could understand it in a better light. Small minded people with their own goals in mine and not America are to blame not Trump.
The president had his chance in over 60 courts of law – many with judges he appointed – to challenge the election.
He won in one. He lost in the other 60 plus court challenges.
In USA we deal with proof/evidence – not accusations/feelings.
We have uncovered a clone for Archie Mendez. His name is Franklin Craig. unbelievable to have two like them in the same community.
John
I have over the last several days been addressing various comment by both Never Trumpers and Forever Trumpers. This would seem appropriate here:
No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement
Inflaming emotions isn’t a crime. The president didn’t mention violence, much less provoke it.
By Jeffrey Scott Shapiro
Jan. 10, 2021 1:39 pm ET
House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of “incitement to insurrection.” Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is “looking at all actors here and anyone that had a role” in the Capitol riot. Some reporters have construed that as including Mr. Trump.
The president didn’t commit incitement or any other crime. I should know. As a Washington prosecutor I earned the nickname “protester prosecutor” from the antiwar group CodePink. In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt. In another, I convicted a CodePink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room, and incited the audience to seize the secretary of state physically. In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard for incitement. One such defendant was the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan.
Hostile journalists and lawmakers have suggested Mr. Trump incited the riot when he told a rally that Republicans need to “fight much harder.” Mr. Trump suggested the crowd walk to the Capitol: “We’re going to cheer on brave senators and congressmen and -women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong.”
In the District of Columbia, it’s a crime to “intentionally or recklessly act in such a manner to cause another person to be in reasonable fear” and to “incite or provoke violence where there is a likelihood that such violence will ensue.” This language is based on Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), in which the Supreme Court set the standard for speech that could be prosecuted without violating the First Amendment. The justices held that a Ku Klux Klan leader’s calls for violence against blacks and Jews were protected speech. The court found that Clarence Brandenburg’s comments were “mere advocacy” of violence, not “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action . . . likely to incite or produce such action.”
The president didn’t mention violence on Wednesday, much less provoke or incite it. He said, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
District law defines a riot as “a public disturbance . . . which by tumultuous and violent conduct or the threat thereof creates grave danger of damage or injury to property or persons.” When Mr. Trump spoke, there was no “public disturbance,” only a rally. The “disturbance” came later at the Capitol by a small minority who entered the perimeter and broke the law. They should be prosecuted.
The president’s critics want him charged for inflaming the emotions of angry Americans. That alone does not satisfy the elements of any criminal offense, and therefore his speech is protected by the Constitution that members of Congress are sworn to support and defend.
Mr. Shapiro served as an assistant attorney general of the District of Columbia, 2007-09.
Bruce Wymore presentation of Shapiro’s thinking probably will be part of the deliberations in the impeachment trial to be taken in the Senate eventually. This is a diversion from the the offerings of our two idiot clones previously having made noise in the Biz. The Senate will decide if Shapiro is persuasive.
I disagree that inflaming emotions isn’t a crime because when the emotions of idiots are inflamed they too often take the law into their own hands and in their stupor do lawless harm as happened in the Capital last week. This has to be a key consideration in the Senate deliberations in the impeachment trial if the Shapiro thoughts are entered into testimony
As to our clones; one can’t read the other doesn’t want to. And they are allowed to vote !!!
WOW.
John
Okay Bruce Wymore, let us assume that everything the president said clears him of not inciting the riot (it was not a protest, remember all the talk around the George Floyd “protests”).
Doesn’t he have a responsibility to address his supporters immediately to not destroy the Capital, not hang Mike Pence (he throws everybody under the bus when they do not agree with him by firing, forcing to resign or ignoring), and not assassinate Pelosi? He waited 6 or more hours to tell his followers I love you and now go home. The law and order president?